[Syrupmakers] excelsior mill

Fri Feb 1 06:18:48 PST 2008

Peter, 
No, I'm in MS about 30 min. south of Jackson. But, I do a lot of driving  
through MS, AL, and LA. I went to Folsen, LA last weekend to buy  scrap zinc to 
make my cane mill bearings. Anyway, It's not that  big of a deal. I just know 
what a forge will do, because my dad, brother, and me  played around with 
blacksmithing a lot when I was growing up. You can  heat large areas better, 
faster, and cheaper than with a torch. And you  don't have to have coal for this 
project. You can use charcoal. You could  just use a torch to do the heating.
    As for all the hammering, it would probably be 5-6  licks on each piece. 
I just think that if there is a void between the  roller and the new plate it 
could cause problems down the road. But, I'm always  thinking high production 
and worse case scenario. If you'll only be making a  couple hundred gallons of 
juice a year than you could probably slap  anything on that roller and it 
would last the rest of your life. 
Anyway, I'm just saying what I would try. I may be way off base.

JT

In a message dated 1/31/2008 11:08:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
ptrpdt at aol.com writes:

thanks,  I am located in Leeesville,LA . that is a little more in depth than 
I was  figuring on. I was going to cut and weld,however heating and hammering 
would  ensure a better weld. all advice is appreciated. Are you in  La.? 

thanks,peter

-----Original Message-----
From:  DBACrownhoney at aol.com
To: syrupmakers at syrupmakers.net
Sent: Thu, 31 Jan  2008 12:02 am
Subject: Re: [Syrupmakers] excelsior mill

Were do you live? I have a friend that works on the pipeline and he says  
they have piles of scrap. All different sizes. I don't think you will find one  
that's an exact fit, but I could probably get one pretty close. And if it were  
me this is what I would do. You can build a big forge cheaply out of a 18  
wheeler wheel rim. And us a leaf blower for the air supply. Take a piece  of 
pipe that's a little smaller diameter than the roller. Then split it in  half, 
then quarter it. It may also help to split it in eight pieces. This  would give 
you more weld area. Then heat it on the forge and hammer it down on  the 
roller to a exact fit. Since your pipe is a little smaller than the  roller when 
you put the pieces around the roller it will leave a gap  between each piece. 
This gap should be wide enough to get some weld  to the roller and also to the 
next plate. Then you'll have a strong  attachment to the roller but not have to 
use all those rods to build up. Then  have it turned on a lathe. 
Anyway, that's just what I would try.

J.T.

In a message dated 1/30/2008 9:37:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
_Ptrpdt at aol.com_ (mailto:Ptrpdt at aol.com)   writes:

Thanks for the info. I was not sure if a roller is cast thick enough  for re 
grooving without taking a chance on weakening the roller enough to  cause 
damage when grinding cane. thought about building roller up with cast  high alloy 
rods and turning on a lathe but at $76 a pound for rods I can buy  a mill 
cheaper by the time I am done. might split a piece of pipe if i can  find the 
right size and weld it to the roller and groove it as last  resort.

                    thanks, peter

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